70s food and restaurants

[m***@cox-internet.com]

I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.

Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.

I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.

Thanks,
Jeanne
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[rbrtm01]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.
Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
Thanks,
Jeanne

Strawberry Patch,
Mason Jar,
Black Angus,
Blackeye pea,
Trader Vic's,
Harry's,
Victoria Station,
The Rail Head,
never ate at the first two but most everybody I knew at the time had eaten
there.. The whole crew I worked with use to go to the Black Angus right
after work and drink till the wifes got there to eat. Trader Vics had some
really interesting drinks if you liked rum, Victoria Station had all the
ribs you could eat and a not bad prime rib. I preferred the prime rib at
Rail head. The Stables on Main was a good place to eat,never did get around
to making the Red Lion next door.. There use to be a pizza joint on Weslayan
just south of 59 that made a bar-b-qued pizza I liked, think it was
Stuckey's but was a lot of brain cells ago.. can't remember the name of the
mexican food place on Almeda wonder if it is still there.. Giado's on South
Main, Kaphan's on South Main at OST.. not sure I spelled that one right..
Use to eat at a Mexican food place on Washington or Studemont that was small
and interesting, they didn't speak English, I didn't speak Spanish, and the
menu was only in Spanish, I usually had somebody in the group who could
translate for me.. Or I would just point and say I will try whatever this
one is..
There was another Mexican food place on Fondren everybody liked but I felt
like it was in line with other fast food places..
One group I worked with liked volume food and we had to hit Pancho's for
lunch, tried to avoid that one when possible, then they discovered Loe's on
Shepard. Better food and enough to more then fill you up..

[Jack Sloan]

Post by rbrtm01

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.
Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
Thanks,
Jeanne

Strawberry Patch,
Mason Jar,
Black Angus,
Blackeye pea,
Trader Vic's,
Harry's,
Victoria Station,
The Rail Head,

Sonny Looks
Pier 21
Steak and Ale

[rbrtm01]

Post by Jack Sloan

Post by rbrtm01

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.
Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
Thanks,
Jeanne

Strawberry Patch,
Mason Jar,
Black Angus,
Blackeye pea,
Trader Vic's,
Harry's,
Victoria Station,
The Rail Head,

Sonny Looks
Pier 21
Steak and Ale

Always wanted to try Pier 21..

back in the early 70's I worked down town and ate at Tamborello's on Main
street at least once a week. Got the hot Itilian poorboy, but they were not
as good after that one lady retired..

[Albert Nurick]

Post by rbrtm01
Always wanted to try Pier 21..
back in the early 70's I worked down town and ate at Tamborello's on
Main street at least once a week. Got the hot Itilian poorboy, but
they were not as good after that one lady retired..

Pier 21 was a great place; my parents were regulars. Very good gulf
coast seafood, nice atmosphere and friendly staff... we had a regular
waitress who always took excellent care of us.

[George Kerby]

On 1/19/06 6:56 PM, in article

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by rbrtm01
Always wanted to try Pier 21..
back in the early 70's I worked down town and ate at Tamborello's on
Main street at least once a week. Got the hot Itilian poorboy, but
they were not as good after that one lady retired..

Pier 21 was a great place; my parents were regulars. Very good gulf
coast seafood, nice atmosphere and friendly staff... we had a regular
waitress who always took excellent care of us.

I'll second that. While being poor students at UST, we still had enough
scratch to go over there on Friday nights and engorge ourselves in more than
ample servings of great seafood. Dentler's place is extremely missed.


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Post by George Kerby
On 1/19/06 6:56 PM, in article

Post by Albert Nurick
Pier 21 was a great place; my parents were regulars. Very good gulf
coast seafood, nice atmosphere and friendly staff... we had a
regular waitress who always took excellent care of us.

I'll second that. While being poor students at UST, we still had
enough scratch to go over there on Friday nights and engorge
ourselves in more than ample servings of great seafood. Dentler's
place is extremely missed.

Amen. IIRC, the waitress's name was Jackie. Nice lady.

[m***@cox-internet.com]

Thanks so much. I ate at the Mason Jar many many times. They had
(are they still there?) the best baked potato soup.
A group of us would go to the Blackeyed Pea and get salad and rolls.
Yummy fresh yeast rolls. Ach! I'm making myself hungry.

The Stables was an expensive place, right? I need to know the
difference before I have my characters go there. Was Vargos around
back then?
Gallaghers had a great prime rib too.

Jeanne

Post by rbrtm01

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.
Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
Thanks,
Jeanne

Strawberry Patch,
Mason Jar,
Black Angus,
Blackeye pea,
Trader Vic's,
Harry's,
Victoria Station,
The Rail Head,
never ate at the first two but most everybody I knew at the time had eaten
there.. The whole crew I worked with use to go to the Black Angus right
after work and drink till the wifes got there to eat. Trader Vics had some
really interesting drinks if you liked rum, Victoria Station had all the
ribs you could eat and a not bad prime rib. I preferred the prime rib at
Rail head. The Stables on Main was a good place to eat,never did get around
to making the Red Lion next door.. There use to be a pizza joint on Weslayan
just south of 59 that made a bar-b-qued pizza I liked, think it was
Stuckey's but was a lot of brain cells ago.. can't remember the name of the
mexican food place on Almeda wonder if it is still there.. Giado's on South
Main, Kaphan's on South Main at OST.. not sure I spelled that one right..
Use to eat at a Mexican food place on Washington or Studemont that was small
and interesting, they didn't speak English, I didn't speak Spanish, and the
menu was only in Spanish, I usually had somebody in the group who could
translate for me.. Or I would just point and say I will try whatever this
one is..
There was another Mexican food place on Fondren everybody liked but I felt
like it was in line with other fast food places..
One group I worked with liked volume food and we had to hit Pancho's for
lunch, tried to avoid that one when possible, then they discovered Loe's on
Shepard. Better food and enough to more then fill you up..

[Albert Nurick]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
Thanks so much. I ate at the Mason Jar many many times. They had
(are they still there?) the best baked potato soup.
A group of us would go to the Blackeyed Pea and get salad and rolls.
Yummy fresh yeast rolls. Ach! I'm making myself hungry.
The Stables was an expensive place, right?

I'd describe it as an upper-moderate steakhouse.

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I need to know the difference before I have my characters go there.
Was Vargos around back then?

Yep. People went for the atmosphere on the grounds, with the strolling
peacocks. Food was never the point at Vargo's.

If you want a really cool setting, consider Los Troncos. It was a
restaurant built into a gigantic old tree, and many locals called it
the Treehouse. Winding passages between tables, each of which was in
its own little wooden room. A perfect spot for intrigue.

I was a kid when I went with my parents; perhaps Jack or someone else
could give you more details.

Another unique spot is Spindletop, the rotating restaurant atop the
Hyatt Regency downtown. When it was built in the 70's, it had an
amazing view, and was quite the hotspot for a while. It's near the big
oil buildings.

The Petroleum Club is another oil bigwig spot; it's a private club
downtown.

The Old Capital Club was located in the Rice Hotel; a private club
frequented primarily by lawyers and judges. Highback red-leather
banquettes, private lockers for member's booze behind the bar, and no
women allowed.

[George Kerby]

DAMN! I remember the "Treehouse". What a unique place.


On 1/19/06 11:46 AM, in article

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
Thanks so much. I ate at the Mason Jar many many times. They had
(are they still there?) the best baked potato soup.
A group of us would go to the Blackeyed Pea and get salad and rolls.
Yummy fresh yeast rolls. Ach! I'm making myself hungry.
The Stables was an expensive place, right?

I'd describe it as an upper-moderate steakhouse.

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I need to know the difference before I have my characters go there.
Was Vargos around back then?

Yep. People went for the atmosphere on the grounds, with the strolling
peacocks. Food was never the point at Vargo's.
If you want a really cool setting, consider Los Troncos. It was a
restaurant built into a gigantic old tree, and many locals called it
the Treehouse. Winding passages between tables, each of which was in
its own little wooden room. A perfect spot for intrigue.
I was a kid when I went with my parents; perhaps Jack or someone else
could give you more details.
Another unique spot is Spindletop, the rotating restaurant atop the
Hyatt Regency downtown. When it was built in the 70's, it had an
amazing view, and was quite the hotspot for a while. It's near the big
oil buildings.
The Petroleum Club is another oil bigwig spot; it's a private club
downtown.
The Old Capital Club was located in the Rice Hotel; a private club
frequented primarily by lawyers and judges. Highback red-leather
banquettes, private lockers for member's booze behind the bar, and no
women allowed.

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[m***@cox-internet.com]

Where was the Treehouse? I never heard of it.
Jeanne

Post by George Kerby
DAMN! I remember the "Treehouse". What a unique place.
On 1/19/06 11:46 AM, in article

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
Thanks so much. I ate at the Mason Jar many many times. They had
(are they still there?) the best baked potato soup.
A group of us would go to the Blackeyed Pea and get salad and rolls.
Yummy fresh yeast rolls. Ach! I'm making myself hungry.
The Stables was an expensive place, right?

I'd describe it as an upper-moderate steakhouse.

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I need to know the difference before I have my characters go there.
Was Vargos around back then?

Yep. People went for the atmosphere on the grounds, with the strolling
peacocks. Food was never the point at Vargo's.
If you want a really cool setting, consider Los Troncos. It was a
restaurant built into a gigantic old tree, and many locals called it
the Treehouse. Winding passages between tables, each of which was in
its own little wooden room. A perfect spot for intrigue.
I was a kid when I went with my parents; perhaps Jack or someone else
could give you more details.
Another unique spot is Spindletop, the rotating restaurant atop the
Hyatt Regency downtown. When it was built in the 70's, it had an
amazing view, and was quite the hotspot for a while. It's near the big
oil buildings.
The Petroleum Club is another oil bigwig spot; it's a private club
downtown.
The Old Capital Club was located in the Rice Hotel; a private club
frequented primarily by lawyers and judges. Highback red-leather
banquettes, private lockers for member's booze behind the bar, and no
women allowed.

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[Albert Nurick]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
Where was the Treehouse? I never heard of it.

It was on inner Westheimer, where Da Marco is now, I believe. Operated
by Daniel Trevino Jr. Closed sometime in the '70's.

[Jack Tyler]

I believe that the "Treehouse" (Los Troncos) sat where Da Marco is
today... a few blocks west of Montrose on Westheimer.

Jack

[Randy]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.
Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.

Eating in was a lot more popular then: esp. casseroles.

A lot came out of a can: Hamburger Helper, Campbell's soups, Spaghetti
O's... Chef Boy-ar-dee was very big.

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.

I would have thought that locally owned Texas roadhouses, ice houses,
BBQ shacks, and taquerias still would have been much bigger in Houston
back then. If it were my story, probably that's the prop I'd use. More
colorful than today's big bland corporate chains with big bland food.

Randy

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
Thanks,
Jeanne

[Al]

I remember 'walk thru' , caffeteria style Steak places like ,
Ponderosa, Bonanza & Golden Corral, where you ordered your steak at
the start of the line and they cooked it ,either by the time you got to
the cashier or soon there after.
Any of those places left? I don't count Ryans. Any places like that
left?

[Dave Garrett]

Post by Al
I remember 'walk thru' , caffeteria style Steak places like ,
Ponderosa, Bonanza & Golden Corral, where you ordered your steak at
the start of the line and they cooked it ,either by the time you got to
the cashier or soon there after.
Any of those places left? I don't count Ryans. Any places like that
left?

Proving there's a culinary equivalent of "train wreck syndrome" (i.e.,
you just can't look away from a train wreck), I've been curious about
the "Steak Kountry Buffet" across from the Ikea on I-10 for a while, but
I haven't quite mustered up the intestinal fortitude to give it a try.

Dave

[Jack Tyler]

Post by Dave Garrett
the "Steak Kountry Buffet" across from the Ikea on I-10 for a while, but
I haven't quite mustered up the intestinal fortitude to give it a try.
Dave

It is almost exclusively an Hispanic clientele.... huge families and
lots of kids. Very loud and crowded and lot's of food, mostly Mexican
offerings. The two beef choices were a very well done serve-yourself
steak (round steak, I believe... pretty tough and dry) and a roast that
they carve from is also VERY well done. Did I say lot's of kids? I
watched a kid with his mouth open under the soft serve ice cream
machine just letting it come out directly into his mouth.

Have fun.

Jack

[Albert Nurick]

Post by Dave Garrett

Post by Al
I remember 'walk thru' , caffeteria style Steak places like ,
Ponderosa, Bonanza & Golden Corral, where you ordered your steak at
the start of the line and they cooked it ,either by the time you
got to the cashier or soon there after.
Any of those places left? I don't count Ryans. Any places like that
left?

Proving there's a culinary equivalent of "train wreck syndrome"
(i.e., you just can't look away from a train wreck), I've been
curious about the "Steak Kountry Buffet" across from the Ikea on I-10
for a while, but I haven't quite mustered up the intestinal fortitude
to give it a try.

I've heard it is dreadful, and makes Golden Corral look like fine
dining.

[rbrtm01]

Post by Dave Garrett

Post by Al
I remember 'walk thru' , caffeteria style Steak places like ,
Ponderosa, Bonanza & Golden Corral, where you ordered your steak at
the start of the line and they cooked it ,either by the time you got to
the cashier or soon there after.
Any of those places left? I don't count Ryans. Any places like that
left?

Proving there's a culinary equivalent of "train wreck syndrome" (i.e.,
you just can't look away from a train wreck), I've been curious about
the "Steak Kountry Buffet" across from the Ikea on I-10 for a while, but
I haven't quite mustered up the intestinal fortitude to give it a try.
Dave

Keep it that way your not missing a thing, other then the rolls are good
when they are hot. I think they must bring out little pieces of steak about
one every hour and not much then. Chicken, chicken and more chicken is what
they have along with a salad bar, and remember there being ribs and sausage
sometimes. Use to work evenings around the corner from this place and tried
it a second time to make sure it didn't improve.. Wasn't terrible but wasn't
great either..

[E. Stewart]

Hush Puppies that used to be on I-45 North and the vacinity of Holzworth
Road? I was real young at this time but remember it being the first time in
my life I have ever eaten crab legs. They had this big buffet with all
sorts of other stuff as well.

Post by Al
I remember 'walk thru' , caffeteria style Steak places like ,
Ponderosa, Bonanza & Golden Corral, where you ordered your steak at
the start of the line and they cooked it ,either by the time you got to
the cashier or soon there after.
Any of those places left? I don't count Ryans. Any places like that
left?

[Charlene Charette]

Post by Al
I remember 'walk thru' , caffeteria style Steak places like ,
Ponderosa, Bonanza & Golden Corral, where you ordered your steak at
the start of the line and they cooked it ,either by the time you got to
the cashier or soon there after.
Any of those places left? I don't count Ryans. Any places like that
left?

I'd settle for someplace to get sirloin tips with mushroom gravy.

--Charlene

[Frank Mancuso]

Post by Al
I remember 'walk thru' , caffeteria style Steak places like ,
Ponderosa, Bonanza & Golden Corral, where you ordered your steak at
the start of the line and they cooked it ,either by the time you got to
the cashier or soon there after.
Any of those places left? I don't count Ryans. Any places like that
left?

And who could forget The Sizzler! I loved their steak sauce.

[Albert Nurick]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons

Tony's, then and now.

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
and the cheap ones where the students went.

Across the Street on Hilcroft, where you'd order via a telephone to the
kitchen at your booth.

Prince's Hamburgers a drive-in

Alfred's a deli with a kosher/ethnic food store in the front that you'd
walk through to be seated.

[Al]

"Alfred's a deli with a kosher/ethnic food store in the front that
you'd
walk through to be seated."

Alfred's was a wonderful place, great roasted chicken and the best
Borsch I ever had.
Place in the Village was jam packed night and day, don't know why it
failed, place on Stella Link was in a declining area, I can't see what
happened there.

[m***@cox-internet.com]

That reminds me, what was the name of the grocery store the rich folks
went to? There was one on Shephard. It was someone's name (not
Randalls) and had all the exotic expensive stuff for the River Oaks
crowd. The father in this family is in politics. I don't know what
yet. Am still hunting for something to tell me what the most common
route through the various state offices is. Amazing I didn't learn
that in political science classes. Anyway, the father is rich and
would want his cook to shop only at this exclusive store.
The son, whom the father is trying to groom for politcal office, would
hang out at Prince's and Champs. Or was Champs there in 71? I think
I remember when the one on Hillcroft opened; it took the place of
another one with some guys name. Then, much later, it got usurped by
another place, the name of which I can't remember also.
Jeanne

Post by Al
"Alfred's a deli with a kosher/ethnic food store in the front that
you'd
walk through to be seated."
Alfred's was a wonderful place, great roasted chicken and the best
Borsch I ever had.
Place in the Village was jam packed night and day, don't know why it
failed, place on Stella Link was in a declining area, I can't see what
happened there.

[n***@nowhere.org]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
That reminds me, what was the name of the grocery store the rich folks
went to? There was one on Shephard. It was someone's name (not
Randalls) and had all the exotic expensive stuff for the River Oaks
crowd. The father in this family is in politics. I don't know what
yet. Am still hunting for something to tell me what the most common
route through the various state offices is. Amazing I didn't learn
that in political science classes. Anyway, the father is rich and
would want his cook to shop only at this exclusive store.
The son, whom the father is trying to groom for politcal office, would
hang out at Prince's and Champs. Or was Champs there in 71? I think
I remember when the one on Hillcroft opened; it took the place of
another one with some guys name. Then, much later, it got usurped by
another place, the name of which I can't remember also.
Jeanne

Post by Al
"Alfred's a deli with a kosher/ethnic food store in the front that
you'd
walk through to be seated."
Alfred's was a wonderful place, great roasted chicken and the best
Borsch I ever had.
Place in the Village was jam packed night and day, don't know why it
failed, place on Stella Link was in a declining area, I can't see what
happened there.

Jamail's. But the store was on Kirby.
--Kelly Younger

[m***@cox-internet.com]

Post by n***@nowhere.org

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
That reminds me, what was the name of the grocery store the rich folks
went to? There was one on Shephard. It was someone's name (not
Randalls) and had all the exotic expensive stuff for the River Oaks

Great. Thanks!
Jeanne

Post by n***@nowhere.org
Jamail's. But the store was on Kirby.
--Kelly Younger

[Albert Nurick]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
That reminds me, what was the name of the grocery store the rich folks
went to? There was one on Shephard. It was someone's name (not
Randalls) and had all the exotic expensive stuff for the River Oaks
crowd. The father in this family is in politics. I don't know what
yet.

Sounds like Jamail's. My then 95-year-old great aunt loved to shop
there. She'd ask the stock boys where something was, and they'd rush
off to get it for her; she'd have 3 or 4 of them running at any time.

[Christine]

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
That reminds me, what was the name of the grocery store the rich folks
went to? There was one on Shephard. It was someone's name (not
Randalls) and had all the exotic expensive stuff for the River Oaks
crowd. The father in this family is in politics. I don't know what
yet.

Sounds like Jamail's. My then 95-year-old great aunt loved to shop
there. She'd ask the stock boys where something was, and they'd rush
off to get it for her; she'd have 3 or 4 of them running at any time.
--
Albert Nurick | Nurick + Associates - Web Design

Definitely Jamail's. I used to shop there when we lived near the
intersection of Shepherd and Westheimer (on Huldy). It was a few doors down
from the now long-gone Battelstein's.

We only had one car so I walked to Jamail's to buy groceries and had them
delivered. Great fun for a semi-poverty stricken 21 year-old... shopping
among all the River Oaks maids!

Chris in Pearland

[Jack Tyler]

There were two Jamail's. One on Kirby and another on Shepherd...
however, different owners in the same family (cousins, I believe). The
main one, I believe, was on Kirby, as Kelly says.

Jack

[Al]

Definitely Jamail's, until WF and CM only Rice Epicurean had a close
up-scale approximation of Jamail's.
I least I did not know of as unscale supermarket in Houston after
Jamail's closed...that is until recent times.
That place was so fancy they had guys in the produce department who
would not let you touch the produce, you had to say what you wanted and
they got it for you.

[m***@cox-internet.com]

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons

Tony's, then and now.

What is Tony's famous for? Anything in particular? I can't remember
where it is.

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
and the cheap ones where the students went.

Across the Street on Hilcroft, where you'd order via a telephone to the
kitchen at your booth.
Prince's Hamburgers a drive-in

Boy, memories... The last Prince's was over near UH Main campus,
right at the underpass. Used to see it every day as I drove home. I
don't remember the one on Hillcroft, but I didn't have a car when I
first got there. Live on or near Hillcroft 3 times during the 20
years I was there.

Post by Albert Nurick
Alfred's a deli with a kosher/ethnic food store in the front that you'd
walk through to be seated.

Oh, Alfred's! Yum! I had the best pate at the one on... gads I
forget. Shephard? Not the one on Westheimer. They had (have?) a ton
of veggie salads. It was still in operation when I left Houston,
although highly remodled. Wonder if it's still there and as good.

Was the Hobbit Hole there in 71? It seemed interesting but I just
couldn't get into avacado and sprout sandwiches. Blech!


Jeanne

[Albert Nurick]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons

Tony's, then and now.

What is Tony's famous for? Anything in particular? I can't remember
where it is.

Tony Vallone (the proprietor of Tony's) introduced true fine dining to
the Houston area, and his establishment became the hangout of the rich
and powerful. Maxine Messenger, the gossip columnist at the Chronicle,
held court there, and her column was peppered with who was at Tony's on
a given night.

(If you're researching for a book, you could do worse than to ask Jack
Tyler here for help; he's an expert on the restaurant scene.)

Post by m***@cox-internet.com

Post by Albert Nurick
Prince's Hamburgers a drive-in

Boy, memories... The last Prince's was over near UH Main campus,
right at the underpass. Used to see it every day as I drove home. I
don't remember the one on Hillcroft, but I didn't have a car when I
first got there. Live on or near Hillcroft 3 times during the 20
years I was there.

I grew up in Meyerland, and lived near Hillcroft and Braeswood in the
60's and 70's.

Post by m***@cox-internet.com

Post by Albert Nurick
Alfred's a deli with a kosher/ethnic food store in the front that
you'd walk through to be seated.

Oh, Alfred's! Yum! I had the best pate at the one on... gads I
forget. Shephard? Not the one on Westheimer. They had (have?) a ton
of veggie salads. It was still in operation when I left Houston,
although highly remodled. Wonder if it's still there and as good.

Alfred's is gone, unfortunately. And greatly missed.

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
Was the Hobbit Hole there in 71? It seemed interesting but I just
couldn't get into avacado and sprout sandwiches. Blech!

Agreed. I don't understand the Hobbit Hole's survival. Truly mediocre
food and indifferent service.

[Frank Mancuso]

Post by Albert Nurick
Tony Vallone (the proprietor of Tony's) introduced true fine dining to
the Houston area, and his establishment became the hangout of the rich
and powerful. Maxine Messenger, the gossip columnist at the Chronicle,
held court there, and her column was peppered with who was at Tony's on
a given night.

Who could forget the infamous lunch that Fran Blinebury had with then
Oilers GM Lance Herzeg, where they got into a slap fight right in the
middle of Tony's after dropping $1200 and a few bottles of champagne

[Al]

Youngbloods Chicken was still around in the 70's , I can't remember how
long.
But then, I remember them from the 40's and 50's, pre pre pre KFC days!
KFC blew they away!

[Jack Sloan]

Post by Al
Youngbloods Chicken was still around in the 70's , I can't remember how
long.

Ain't no meat on dem bones.

[Aje RavenStar]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.
Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
Thanks,
Jeanne

Downtown, Sam's Deli at the Epperson Building, and Charlie's # 2 Bar-B-Q on
Fannin. I'm not sure if Massa's was downtown at that time, but believe so.
Fast food, was Prince's, the Pig Stand, Der Weinersnitzel, Kentucky Fried
Chicken. Ferrel's Ice Cream Parlors, NW Mall and other places. Mexican
chains were Monterrey House and El Chico's. Spanish Flower was around,
Triple A Restaurant at the Farmer's Market on Airline had been around for
years. Same for Sam's Bar-B-Q further up on Airline. Confederate House on
the near west side.

[Al]

Wyatt's Cafeterias were still going strong in the 70's, tho not at
the top of their mark as they were during the 50's and 60's.
Alas they went straight down hill in the 80's into the dumper.
Interesting, when I was a child in the 1940's , growing up in Dallas, I
remember Wyatt's supermarkets. Because they were in that biz, is the
reason they open a Cafeteria in Lakewood in Dallas, yes me and my
family eat for many years eat at the flag ship store in Dallas. They
were around in Texas for many year after they sold the supermarket
chain. I even eat at that old flagship store with my mother in the
early 90's , in Dallas.

I notice a Wyatt's still listed in Pasadena , but I don't believe it.

[Julia Dream]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.
Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
Thanks,
Jeanne

Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and Country
Center?)

Becky

[m***@cox-internet.com]

That reminds me. Does anyone remember that gigantic organ they
brought over from somewhere in Europe and installed in the food court
at Sharpstown Mall? Now that was something. Guess the hoi paloi
didn't appreciate it though as it didn't last.

Jeanne

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:04 GMT, "Julia Dream"

Post by Julia Dream
Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and Country
Center?)
Becky

[The Chief Instigator]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:04 GMT, "Julia Dream"

Post by Julia Dream
Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and Country
Center?)
Becky

That reminds me. Does anyone remember that gigantic organ they
brought over from somewhere in Europe and installed in the food court
at Sharpstown Mall? Now that was something. Guess the hoi paloi
didn't appreciate it though as it didn't last.
Jeanne

They saw what was coming...the old Good Time Charley's in the late '70s is now
a shell of its former self. (Dale and I were going to get our annual
Christmas Cinnabons there, and discovered that Cinnabon bailed out of
Sharpstown a month or two before. It's like watching Westwood Mall die near
the turn of the century.)

[Albert Nurick]

Post by The Chief Instigator

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:04 GMT, "Julia Dream"

Post by Julia Dream
Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and
Country Center?)
Becky

That reminds me. Does anyone remember that gigantic organ they
brought over from somewhere in Europe and installed in the food
court at Sharpstown Mall? Now that was something. Guess the hoi
paloi didn't appreciate it though as it didn't last.
Jeanne

They saw what was coming...the old Good Time Charley's in the late
'70s is now a shell of its former self. (Dale and I were going to
get our annual Christmas Cinnabons there, and discovered that
Cinnabon bailed out of Sharpstown a month or two before. It's like
watching Westwood Mall die near the turn of the century.)

I visited Sharpstown a couple of years ago, and was depressed. Lots of
no-name schlock peddlers, and the typical mall stores seemed to be
making an exodus. I see no reason to return.

[The Chief Instigator]

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by The Chief Instigator

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:04 GMT, "Julia Dream"

Post by Julia Dream
Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and
Country Center?)
Becky

That reminds me. Does anyone remember that gigantic organ they
brought over from somewhere in Europe and installed in the food
court at Sharpstown Mall? Now that was something. Guess the hoi
paloi didn't appreciate it though as it didn't last.
Jeanne

They saw what was coming...the old Good Time Charley's in the late
'70s is now a shell of its former self. (Dale and I were going to
get our annual Christmas Cinnabons there, and discovered that
Cinnabon bailed out of Sharpstown a month or two before. It's like
watching Westwood Mall die near the turn of the century.)

I visited Sharpstown a couple of years ago, and was depressed. Lots of
no-name schlock peddlers, and the typical mall stores seemed to be
making an exodus. I see no reason to return.

The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done on
random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is when Foley's
announces they'll be sending their best staff from the Sharpstown store to the
Galleria, and shut down the former...after which, the mall's lifetime can be
measured in weeks, if that long.

[Albert Nurick]

Post by The Chief Instigator
The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done
on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is
when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best staff from the
Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the former...after
which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in weeks, if that long.

It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"

[m***@cox-internet.com]

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by The Chief Instigator
The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done
on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is
when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best staff from the
Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the former...after
which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in weeks, if that long.

It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"

What "was"??? What is it now? I used to work there before I went back
to school.
Jeanne

[Albert Nurick]

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by The Chief Instigator
The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being

done >> on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being
done) is >> when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best
staff from the >> Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the
former...after >> which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in
weeks, if that long.

Post by Albert Nurick
It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"

What "was"??? What is it now? I used to work there before I went back
to school.

They tried to turn it into a technology business center, with limited
success. It's not a mall anymore. :(

[Becca]

We ate at Ninfa's, Brennan's, Sonny Look's, Gaido's, Chez Orleans, Happy
Buddha, La Grenouille (French restaurant on Westheimer).

We had Sunday brunch every weekend at the San Jacinto Inn (Monument Inn)
and I was soooooo tired of eating there, but my family loved their
oysters on the half shell.

Grandma loved the Picadilly cafeteria and KFC. She was glad to have
fried chicken without having to cook it. My favorite restaurants were
Jack in the Box, Der Wienerschnitzel and Shakey's Pizza (hey, I was just
a kid!).

Becca

[The Chief Instigator]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by The Chief Instigator
The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done
on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is
when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best staff from the
Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the former...after
which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in weeks, if that long.

It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"

What "was"??? What is it now? I used to work there before I went back
to school.
Jeanne

It's now Westwood Technology Center...and doesn't seem to have too many
tenants.

[The Chief Instigator]

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by The Chief Instigator
The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done
on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is
when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best staff from the
Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the former...after
which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in weeks, if that long.

It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"

That should be asked of those who got Westwood going - in the mid-'70s, not
quite three miles down 59 from Sharpstown, which at the time was the mall to
go to on the southwest side. (Maybe the same ones who decided Town & Country,
less than a mile away from an established Memorial City, could survive for the
long term.)

[Frank F. Matthews]

Post by The Chief Instigator

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by The Chief Instigator
The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done
on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is
when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best staff from the
Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the former...after
which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in weeks, if that long.

It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"

That should be asked of those who got Westwood going - in the mid-'70s, not
quite three miles down 59 from Sharpstown, which at the time was the mall to
go to on the southwest side. (Maybe the same ones who decided Town & Country,
less than a mile away from an established Memorial City, could survive for the
long term.)

I suppose that they all thought that they could beat the competition and
get them to close.

[The Chief Instigator]

Post by The Chief Instigator

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by The Chief Instigator
The only mystery left (besides the schizophrenic paint job being done
on random sections of the mall exterior, and why it's being done) is
when Foley's announces they'll be sending their best staff from the
Sharpstown store to the Galleria, and shut down the former...after
which, the mall's lifetime can be measured in weeks, if that long.

It's like the Sears in what was Westwood Mall... one has to ask: "Why?"

That should be asked of those who got Westwood going - in the mid-'70s, not
quite three miles down 59 from Sharpstown, which at the time was the mall
to go to on the southwest side. (Maybe the same ones who decided Town &
Country, less than a mile away from an established Memorial City, could
survive for the long term.)

I suppose that they all thought that they could beat the competition and get
them to close.

Probably so, but they obviously didn't consider that malls evolve to fit the
retail environment, and those that don't wind up being rebuilt for other
purposes. That's why we don't have T&C and Westwood around any more.

[George Kerby]

On 1/19/06 3:24 PM, in article

Post by Albert Nurick

Post by The Chief Instigator

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:03:04 GMT, "Julia Dream"

Post by Julia Dream
Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and
Country Center?)
Becky

That reminds me. Does anyone remember that gigantic organ they
brought over from somewhere in Europe and installed in the food
court at Sharpstown Mall? Now that was something. Guess the hoi
paloi didn't appreciate it though as it didn't last.
Jeanne

They saw what was coming...the old Good Time Charley's in the late
'70s is now a shell of its former self. (Dale and I were going to
get our annual Christmas Cinnabons there, and discovered that
Cinnabon bailed out of Sharpstown a month or two before. It's like
watching Westwood Mall die near the turn of the century.)

I visited Sharpstown a couple of years ago, and was depressed. Lots of
no-name schlock peddlers, and the typical mall stores seemed to be
making an exodus. I see no reason to return.

Not to mention the crime.


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Post by Julia Dream

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.
Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
Thanks,
Jeanne

Pipe Organ Pizza Parlor at Memorial City Mall (or was in Town and Country
Center?)

It had to be Memorial City...only pizza place in the old pre-T&C Mall days was
Panjo's, over on the West Belt just north of Memorial. (At least that I
remember. :-)

[Al]

Speaking of Cafeterias, I remember Romano's line here is Houston in
the 70's, it was a strange deal since there were other Cafeteria chains
here in Houston in the 60's, and Romano's seem to come out of nowhere,
they were very popular, jam packed, ..., I never knew why!, since
seemed to me their fare , which was good, was no more special than
others like them.
Sold out to Luby's , maybe a good move, ...., are cafeterias in
decline? Seem to cater to seniors, of which I am one, but I don't go to
any , or very seldom.
By the by when I live in California, in the 70's , for two years, we
could not find a single cafeteria in the Bay Area , strange to think,
never saw one in Northern California.

[jennie]

Post by Al
Speaking of Cafeterias, I remember Romano's line here is Houston in
the 70's, it was a strange deal since there were other Cafeteria chains
here in Houston in the 60's, and Romano's seem to come out of nowhere,
they were very popular, jam packed, ..., I never knew why!, since
seemed to me their fare , which was good, was no more special than
others like them.

I fondly remember the Romano's on I-45 near Monroe exit. We ate there
frequently. The food was delicious, and remained so early in the Luby's
switchover, but has fallen so off in recent years that we hardly even try it
anymore, at least not the few Luby's near us in Clear Lake.

[Albert Nurick]

Post by Al
Speaking of Cafeterias, I remember Romano's line here is Houston in
the 70's, it was a strange deal since there were other Cafeteria
chains here in Houston in the 60's, and Romano's seem to come out of
nowhere, they were very popular, jam packed, ..., I never knew why!,
since seemed to me their fare , which was good, was no more special
than others like them.
Sold out to Luby's , maybe a good move, ...., are cafeterias in
decline? Seem to cater to seniors, of which I am one, but I don't go
to any , or very seldom.

We used to frequent Romano's on Bellaire when I was a kid; once it was
bought by Luby's, it wasn't the same.

I'm so glad I discovered the Cleburne Cafeteria; it's a whole different
level of food.

[Al]

One must mention Cleburne Cafeteria, still there on Bissonnet , but
they branched out once, at least one location I knew was Clear Lake, we
all liked that place, but it floundered, surprised they never had a
success in expanding, a unique Cafeteria, that has been around since I
think, the 1930's, in Houston.

[Dave Garrett]

Post by Al
One must mention Cleburne Cafeteria, still there on Bissonnet , but
they branched out once, at least one location I knew was Clear Lake, we
all liked that place, but it floundered, surprised they never had a
success in expanding, a unique Cafeteria, that has been around since I
think, the 1930's, in Houston.

Also Allbritton's Cafeteria on Waugh - they'd been around for years, and
stuck it out until the early 1990s or thereabouts. While reading the
obits over breakfast recently, I noticed that Luther Allbritton had just
passed away:

http://tinyurl.com/d9sst

Dave

[n***@nowhere.org]

Post by Dave Garrett

Post by Al
One must mention Cleburne Cafeteria, still there on Bissonnet , but
they branched out once, at least one location I knew was Clear Lake, we
all liked that place, but it floundered, surprised they never had a
success in expanding, a unique Cafeteria, that has been around since I
think, the 1930's, in Houston.

Also Allbritton's Cafeteria on Waugh - they'd been around for years, and
stuck it out until the early 1990s or thereabouts. While reading the
obits over breakfast recently, I noticed that Luther Allbritton had just
http://tinyurl.com/d9sst
Dave

The steam table on Waugh gave way to American General. There was one on
Weslayan and Alabama, I believe, that my parents took me to as a kid.
God, I loved their blueberry muffins. But that's about all I remember
about the place. Except for the stench of the fried liver.

[m***@cox-internet.com]

Post by Al
One must mention Cleburne Cafeteria, still there on Bissonnet , but
they branched out once, at least one location I knew was Clear Lake, we
all liked that place, but it floundered, surprised they never had a
success in expanding, a unique Cafeteria, that has been around since I
think, the 1930's, in Houston.

They have apparently tried to expand. They've been saying they're
going to build one here in the central La. town where I am now for
several years. Even have the sign up on the empty lot.

Jeanne

[jennie]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.

A friend of ours worked at Houlihan's Old Place in the mid-70s (Was it a
chain? Not sure.) and said all the Houston big-wig lawyers used to come in.
She said it was nothing for them to drop a $100 tip for a drink or two.

While I was looking up Houlihan's, I came across this thread at egullet---
maybe this will help you out.

http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=53242

Was the Greek place down by the ship channel open then? What was the name
of that place?

If you have a family with young children in your novel, they most certainly
will want to go to Farrell's Ice Cream Parlour in the Galleria for their
birthday. I sure did. :-) I'm almost positive it was Farrell's that got
in trouble for selling/sharing kid's birthday info to the government.
(Don't quote me, though.) It seems a family got a notice that their son had
failed to register for the Selective Service. The son noticed that the
person in question was a name he had made up while at Farrell's with some
buddies to put on the "free ice cream on your birthday" card. Some other
people came forward with similar stories, that their children had put in
names of their dogs and cartoon characters, etc, and all were getting
notices that they were in violation of Selective Service policy.

It may not be Farrell's, but I remember vividly when I heard the story years
ago that it was a place I had been as a child.

[Al]

"Was the Greek place down by the ship channel open then? What was the
name
of that place? "

Yeah can remember going to that Greek place on the channel back in the
late 60's, it was a good place, can't remember the name either, is it
gone?

[Bill Sanders]

Athens Bar & Grill was the big Greek restaurant in that area during the 50's
+. As I recall, it was on Clinton Drive directly across from the Ship
Channel. Maybe that's the one your referring to.

Bill

Post by Al
"Was the Greek place down by the ship channel open then? What was the
name
of that place? "
Yeah can remember going to that Greek place on the channel back in the
late 60's, it was a good place, can't remember the name either, is it
gone?

[Jack Tyler]

Athen's Bar and Grill was popular. Also, in the 70's, Lance McFadden's
clubs were around... Cowboy's, Todd's, elan. Le Pavillion was a top
high-end French Restaurant..., so was Foullard's in the River Oaks High
Rise. Angelo's Fisherman's Wharf, with its Shipwreck Club was a
popular oil guy hang out, as was the Cork Club in the Shamrock (which
moved into an office building on Travis). The Petroleum Club in the
Humble Building and The Houston Club, downtown were where the serious
oil money (OLD oil money) hung out. Tony's was on Sage in those days.
Rudi's on Post Oak. Jamil's on Buffalo Speedway. The Foxhunter was a
nightclub on West Alabama.In the later 70's, Beverly Wren opened the
Million Dollar Dump at 300 Westheimer. Earlier, her husband's
restraurant where Katz's Deli is today was called Art Wren's and it was
a haunt for straight couples who were intrigued by gay watching. Dean
Goss had the popular Dean Goss' Dinner Theatre (which was neither
dinner nor theatre) over by the Astrodome... The Dome Shadows night
club was popular, also, Boccaccio 2000 was the big deal disco on
Lovett. Granny Harbor had Chez Orleans on Westheimer in Highland
Village with a popular piano bar. Piano? Also, Al Pliner's Club 88.
The Club Castille was on the 9th floor in a downtown building...
Bavarian Gardens on Feagan was where we went for German food and
beer...Houston's first Vietnamese restaurant was Saigon on lower
Westheimer. Salvatore's Restaurant was on Montrose. The Pacesetter on
the lower level in the Galleria was a big oilman hangout. Jimmy Gee's
Chinatown was the place for Chinese food, downtown. Mongol's Fondue
was in the 400 block of Westheimer. Joe Huber had my favorite oyster
bar off of Old Market Square... Ernis Criezes had La Bastile down
there, too. The Happy Buddha had fake rainstorms in its garden. The
Swiss chalet was popular with the oil set and had a nice fireplace in
the bar. Don's Le Patois served folks on lower Westheimer, as did
Ari's. The Night Hawk also made a try at it out Westheimer for a short
time.

Jack

[n***@nowhere.org]

Post by Jack Tyler
Athen's Bar and Grill was popular. Also, in the 70's, Lance McFadden's
clubs were around... Cowboy's, Todd's, elan. Le Pavillion was a top
high-end French Restaurant..., so was Foullard's in the River Oaks High
Rise. Angelo's Fisherman's Wharf, with its Shipwreck Club was a
popular oil guy hang out, as was the Cork Club in the Shamrock (which
moved into an office building on Travis). The Petroleum Club in the
Humble Building and The Houston Club, downtown were where the serious
oil money (OLD oil money) hung out. Tony's was on Sage in those days.
Rudi's on Post Oak. Jamil's on Buffalo Speedway. The Foxhunter was a
nightclub on West Alabama.In the later 70's, Beverly Wren opened the
Million Dollar Dump at 300 Westheimer. Earlier, her husband's
restraurant where Katz's Deli is today was called Art Wren's and it was
a haunt for straight couples who were intrigued by gay watching. Dean
Goss had the popular Dean Goss' Dinner Theatre (which was neither
dinner nor theatre) over by the Astrodome... The Dome Shadows night
club was popular, also, Boccaccio 2000 was the big deal disco on
Lovett. Granny Harbor had Chez Orleans on Westheimer in Highland
Village with a popular piano bar. Piano? Also, Al Pliner's Club 88.
The Club Castille was on the 9th floor in a downtown building...
Bavarian Gardens on Feagan was where we went for German food and
beer...Houston's first Vietnamese restaurant was Saigon on lower
Westheimer. Salvatore's Restaurant was on Montrose. The Pacesetter on
the lower level in the Galleria was a big oilman hangout. Jimmy Gee's
Chinatown was the place for Chinese food, downtown. Mongol's Fondue
was in the 400 block of Westheimer. Joe Huber had my favorite oyster
bar off of Old Market Square... Ernis Criezes had La Bastile down
there, too. The Happy Buddha had fake rainstorms in its garden. The
Swiss chalet was popular with the oil set and had a nice fireplace in
the bar. Don's Le Patois served folks on lower Westheimer, as did
Ari's. The Night Hawk also made a try at it out Westheimer for a short
time.
Jack

Art Wren's??? Next you're going to mention Simpson's Diner!

[Jack Tyler]

Post by n***@nowhere.org
Art Wren's??? Next you're going to mention Simpson's Diner!
--
--Kelly Younger

Same clientele.

Jack

[Aje RavenStar]

Post by Jack Tyler
Athen's Bar and Grill was popular. Also, in the 70's, Lance McFadden's
clubs were around... Cowboy's, Todd's, elan. Le Pavillion was a top
high-end French Restaurant..., so was Foullard's in the River Oaks High
Rise. Angelo's Fisherman's Wharf, with its Shipwreck Club was a
popular oil guy hang out, as was the Cork Club in the Shamrock (which
moved into an office building on Travis). The Petroleum Club in the
Humble Building and The Houston Club, downtown were where the serious
oil money (OLD oil money) hung out. Tony's was on Sage in those days.
Rudi's on Post Oak. Jamil's on Buffalo Speedway. The Foxhunter was a
nightclub on West Alabama.In the later 70's, Beverly Wren opened the
Million Dollar Dump at 300 Westheimer. Earlier, her husband's
restraurant where Katz's Deli is today was called Art Wren's and it was
a haunt for straight couples who were intrigued by gay watching. Dean
Goss had the popular Dean Goss' Dinner Theatre (which was neither
dinner nor theatre) over by the Astrodome... The Dome Shadows night
club was popular, also, Boccaccio 2000 was the big deal disco on
Lovett. Granny Harbor had Chez Orleans on Westheimer in Highland
Village with a popular piano bar. Piano? Also, Al Pliner's Club 88.
The Club Castille was on the 9th floor in a downtown building...
Bavarian Gardens on Feagan was where we went for German food and
beer...Houston's first Vietnamese restaurant was Saigon on lower
Westheimer. Salvatore's Restaurant was on Montrose. The Pacesetter on
the lower level in the Galleria was a big oilman hangout. Jimmy Gee's
Chinatown was the place for Chinese food, downtown. Mongol's Fondue
was in the 400 block of Westheimer. Joe Huber had my favorite oyster
bar off of Old Market Square... Ernis Criezes had La Bastile down
there, too. The Happy Buddha had fake rainstorms in its garden. The
Swiss chalet was popular with the oil set and had a nice fireplace in
the bar. Don's Le Patois served folks on lower Westheimer, as did
Ari's. The Night Hawk also made a try at it out Westheimer for a short
time.
Jack

Smacking myself. Early message, forgot to list Trader Vick's, in the
Shamrock.

[George Kerby]

On 1/19/06 10:48 AM, in article

Post by Jack Tyler
Athen's Bar and Grill was popular. Also, in the 70's, Lance McFadden's
clubs were around... Cowboy's, Todd's, elan. Le Pavillion was a top
high-end French Restaurant..., so was Foullard's in the River Oaks High
Rise. Angelo's Fisherman's Wharf, with its Shipwreck Club was a
popular oil guy hang out, as was the Cork Club in the Shamrock (which
moved into an office building on Travis). The Petroleum Club in the
Humble Building and The Houston Club, downtown were where the serious
oil money (OLD oil money) hung out. Tony's was on Sage in those days.
Rudi's on Post Oak. Jamil's on Buffalo Speedway. The Foxhunter was a
nightclub on West Alabama.In the later 70's, Beverly Wren opened the
Million Dollar Dump at 300 Westheimer. Earlier, her husband's
restraurant where Katz's Deli is today was called Art Wren's and it was
a haunt for straight couples who were intrigued by gay watching. Dean
Goss had the popular Dean Goss' Dinner Theatre (which was neither
dinner nor theatre) over by the Astrodome... The Dome Shadows night
club was popular, also, Boccaccio 2000 was the big deal disco on
Lovett. Granny Harbor had Chez Orleans on Westheimer in Highland
Village with a popular piano bar. Piano? Also, Al Pliner's Club 88.
The Club Castille was on the 9th floor in a downtown building...
Bavarian Gardens on Feagan was where we went for German food and
beer...Houston's first Vietnamese restaurant was Saigon on lower
Westheimer. Salvatore's Restaurant was on Montrose. The Pacesetter on
the lower level in the Galleria was a big oilman hangout. Jimmy Gee's
Chinatown was the place for Chinese food, downtown. Mongol's Fondue
was in the 400 block of Westheimer. Joe Huber had my favorite oyster
bar off of Old Market Square... Ernis Criezes had La Bastile down
there, too. The Happy Buddha had fake rainstorms in its garden. The
Swiss chalet was popular with the oil set and had a nice fireplace in
the bar. Don's Le Patois served folks on lower Westheimer, as did
Ari's. The Night Hawk also made a try at it out Westheimer for a short
time.
Jack

DAMN! You're GOOD!
:-)


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Post by Al
"Was the Greek place down by the ship channel open then? What was the
name
of that place? "
Yeah can remember going to that Greek place on the channel back in the
late 60's, it was a good place, can't remember the name either, is it
gone?

Are you thinking of Athens? I was over there a time or two in the '70s (or
'80s - in any case, it's been a while)...

[unknown]

I forget the names and specific locations.

There was a restaurant in a highrise downtown that was known as a
hang-out for people in the oil and gas business in at least the mid- to
late 70's. Also, Harry's Cafeteria on Bagby at Tuam (old house
converted into cafeteria style restaurant) was popular with the real
estate crowd. And there was a Chinese restaurant about 5 blocks east
of Main that was a popular place for lunch. Don't know if it's still
around, doubt it. It was not in the Chinatown area further east of
downtown.

And in Highland Village, there was a New Orleans' style restaurant at
the corner of Westheimer and the rr tracks. It was the place where I
first had shrimp scampi (that was so good). Also, don't forget
Nielsen's Delicatessen was at its original location in Highland Village
then, I believe on Mid Lane just north of Westheimer in the ground
floor of a two story office building next to or near Wagner's Hardware.

And I don't think anyone has mentioned it in this thread, but there was
a chain of restaurants that were best known for serving roasted peanuts
that the shells were thrown on the floor :-) I know this has been
mentioned in the thread(s) called "restaurants of yore" quite awhile
ago. That might also be a good place to chase down names/locations of
restaurants in Houston's past. Also, fwiw, iirc the Houston Public
Library has old editions of the telephone directories dating to that
time.

Good luck,

John

[Albert Nurick]

Post by unknown
And I don't think anyone has mentioned it in this thread, but there
was a chain of restaurants that were best known for serving roasted
peanuts that the shells were thrown on the floor :-) I know this has
been mentioned in the thread(s) called "restaurants of yore" quite
awhile ago.

Ruby Red's?

I also just remembered another unique Houston place: The San Jacinto
Inn, the big family-style restaurant in the shadow of the Battleship
Texas and the San Jacinto Monument.

You'd walk across a crushed oyster-shell parking area, climb the
stairs, and enter a huge barnlike space, with dozens of tables.
White-jacketed waiters would serve family-style seafood to hungry
Houstonians who made the drive. Boiled shrimp (peeled in advance in
those days), either cold boiled crab or oysters on the half-shell
(depending on season) followed by fried fish and fried chicken.

Big, loud place; reasonably expensive.

[Jack Tyler]

Towards the end, I believe we paid $18.95 for AYCE at San Jac Inn.
They tried to fill you up on chicken before they brought the shrimp and
oysters. Always a fun evening there.

Jack

[Jack Sloan]

Post by Jack Tyler
Towards the end, I believe we paid $18.95 for AYCE at San Jac Inn.
They tried to fill you up on chicken before they brought the shrimp and
oysters. Always a fun evening there.
Jack

Perhaps , but the chicken was reaaaly good and the strawberry jam and
bisquits...
Jack

[Jack Tyler]

I always wondered why the nearby Monument Inn didn't try to step in
there with the AYCE deal like the San Jack Inn when it closed. Talk
about an unremarkable restaurant! Yes, Jack.. I loved the bisquits,
too. I always ate one chicken breast... then moved on to the seafood.
I remember taking a girl there on a date in the late 60's and never
took her out again, as she pulled baggies out of her purse at the table
and started filling them with the AYCE shrimp.

Jack

[Al]

Does anybody remember Weldon's Cafeteria on Main near the medical
center, a humongus cafeteria , where they not located in downtown
Houston for many years? I may be miss remembering that.

[a***@gmail.com]

Hi Jeanne:

My family in Houston goes back to the 1910's, but I didn't get here
until 1971.

Some I remember back then were Cellar Door on I-10 and Bellaire at
Wesleyan. Also Pier 21 @ 7000 Fannin when a family friend, George
Dentler owned it. Kaphan's on S. Main near S. Braeswood. Christie's
on S. Main. Bill William's on S. Main. Red Lion on S. Main. Part of
Red Lion family now owns Mucky Duck. And Green Parrot on Memorial near
Dairy Ashford.

More later, good luck with your project.

A.C in Houston

[Jack Tyler]

My G. Grandfather (my mother's grandfather) moved here from Canada
around 1870. They, at some point, lived in a house south of what is
now highway 59, downtown, on a street called Grayson. It doesn't seem
to exist now. My son and daughter are 5th generation Houstonians. All
of this, I guess, reminds me that my aunt built the 1st house on
Wheeler Street, when it was a dirt road and had to suffer the laughs of
her friends because she moved that far out of Houston to save money.
The point to this story must be that Spanish Village, on Almeda, was a
favorite haunt of ours for Mexican food in the late 60's and early
70's, as it had a private club upstairs which served mixed drinks.

Jack

[Jack Tyler]

OOOPS! My grand daughter is a 6th gen Houstonian.

Jack

[Chris Pando]

Post by Jack Tyler
My G. Grandfather (my mother's grandfather) moved here from Canada
around 1870.

That's actually relatively recently. Certainly not early enough to
qualify the ladies for DTR.

.

Post by Jack Tyler
The point to this story must be that Spanish Village, on Almeda, was a
favorite haunt of ours for Mexican food in the late 60's and early
70's, as it had a private club upstairs which served mixed drinks.

Larry Pico's Spanish Village, in those days. In the early 70's it was
the only Mexican restaurant in town that realized that chile
relleno is *not* a bell pepper stuffed with beef and rice. It is the
only place in town I will order a margarita, and a favorite of my
wife's and mine during our courting days.

Chris
--

[Jack Tyler]

Post by Jack Tyler
My G. Grandfather (my mother's grandfather) moved here from Canada
around 1870.
That's actually relatively recently. Certainly not early enough to
qualify the ladies for DTR.
Chris

You're right... but Houston was only 34 years old then. I guess word
got around Canada that there was a new town down in Texas. I have no
idea what would have caused someone to move down here from there at
that time (or now).

Jack

[Chris Pando]

Post by Jack Tyler
You're right... but Houston was only 34 years old then.

An awful lot happened in those 34 years. From Mexico to Republic
to State to rebellion and back to State. Four of the Six Flags.

... snip ...

Post by Jack Tyler
I have no idea what would have caused someone to move down here
from there at that time (or now).

The word usually used to refer to those that showed up immediately
_post bellum_ is carbetbagger.

Anyone moving down here now is surely doing it for the Margaritas.

Chris
--

[Frank F. Matthews]

Post by Jack Tyler

Post by Jack Tyler
My G. Grandfather (my mother's grandfather) moved here from Canada
around 1870.
That's actually relatively recently. Certainly not early enough to
qualify the ladies for DTR.
Chris

You're right... but Houston was only 34 years old then. I guess word
got around Canada that there was a new town down in Texas. I have no
idea what would have caused someone to move down here from there at
that time (or now).
Jack

Temperature in the winter.

[n***@nowhere.org]

Post by Chris Pando

Post by Jack Tyler
My G. Grandfather (my mother's grandfather) moved here from Canada
around 1870.

That's actually relatively recently. Certainly not early enough to
qualify the ladies for DTR.
.

Post by Jack Tyler
The point to this story must be that Spanish Village, on Almeda, was a
favorite haunt of ours for Mexican food in the late 60's and early
70's, as it had a private club upstairs which served mixed drinks.

Larry Pico's Spanish Village, in those days. In the early 70's it was
the only Mexican restaurant in town that realized that chile
relleno is *not* a bell pepper stuffed with beef and rice. It is the
only place in town I will order a margarita, and a favorite of my
wife's and mine during our courting days.
Chris
--

If I had all the money I spent at Spanish Village, Leo's and Phil's,
well I'd be happily retired by now. Ah for the good old days of loose
women, pot, booze and having leftover money when you're making $8 an
hour....

--Kelly Younger

[Al]

Phil's! How could I forget that!
My favorite old time Diner for years and years, the Houston Science
Fiction Ritual Breakfast started there in 1980.....till they closed to
become the 59.
The Ritual is still going... meets at the Avenue Grill downtown on
Saturday morns.

http://home.flash.net/~aajiv/

[George Kerby]

Post by n***@nowhere.org

Post by Chris Pando

Post by Jack Tyler
My G. Grandfather (my mother's grandfather) moved here from Canada
around 1870.

That's actually relatively recently. Certainly not early enough to
qualify the ladies for DTR.
.

Post by Jack Tyler
The point to this story must be that Spanish Village, on Almeda, was a
favorite haunt of ours for Mexican food in the late 60's and early
70's, as it had a private club upstairs which served mixed drinks.

Larry Pico's Spanish Village, in those days. In the early 70's it was
the only Mexican restaurant in town that realized that chile
relleno is *not* a bell pepper stuffed with beef and rice. It is the
only place in town I will order a margarita, and a favorite of my
wife's and mine during our courting days.
Chris
--

If I had all the money I spent at Spanish Village, Leo's and Phil's,
well I'd be happily retired by now. Ah for the good old days of loose
women, pot, booze and having leftover money when you're making $8 an
hour....
--Kelly Younger

YOU were making THAT much?!?


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Post by George Kerby

Post by n***@nowhere.org

Post by Chris Pando

Post by Jack Tyler
My G. Grandfather (my mother's grandfather) moved here from Canada
around 1870.

That's actually relatively recently. Certainly not early enough to
qualify the ladies for DTR.
.

Post by Jack Tyler
The point to this story must be that Spanish Village, on Almeda, was a
favorite haunt of ours for Mexican food in the late 60's and early
70's, as it had a private club upstairs which served mixed drinks.

Larry Pico's Spanish Village, in those days. In the early 70's it was
the only Mexican restaurant in town that realized that chile
relleno is *not* a bell pepper stuffed with beef and rice. It is the
only place in town I will order a margarita, and a favorite of my
wife's and mine during our courting days.
Chris
--

If I had all the money I spent at Spanish Village, Leo's and Phil's,
well I'd be happily retired by now. Ah for the good old days of loose
women, pot, booze and having leftover money when you're making $8 an
hour....
--Kelly Younger

YOU were making THAT much?!?

Hey, I was good at my craft. Not to mention my commodities trading
expertise. Life is cheap when you're splitting $200 rent four ways and
you have to ride a bike to go anywhere.

[George Kerby]

On 1/19/06 11:22 AM, in article

Post by Jack Tyler
My G. Grandfather (my mother's grandfather) moved here from Canada
around 1870. They, at some point, lived in a house south of what is
now highway 59, downtown, on a street called Grayson. It doesn't seem
to exist now. My son and daughter are 5th generation Houstonians. All
of this, I guess, reminds me that my aunt built the 1st house on
Wheeler Street, when it was a dirt road and had to suffer the laughs of
her friends because she moved that far out of Houston to save money.
The point to this story must be that Spanish Village, on Almeda, was a
favorite haunt of ours for Mexican food in the late 60's and early
70's, as it had a private club upstairs which served mixed drinks.
Jack

You still go there? The widow seems to want to keep it going, although her
kids have a pretty much negative approach.

Another family restaurant, Leos, is trying to sell their stuff to the
Mandolia (sp?) family. Hope that it works.


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[Jack Tyler]

I strolled by Spanish Village last week... didn't go in, was just
waxing nostalgic in the neighborhood. My aunt's old house on Wheeler
near Almeda now has a chain link fence around it and it's for sale.
There's some little park across the street where my uncle'e house used
to be. We sold his property to some group that built a Burger King
there, I believe. They eventually had to shut it down, as the black
community was picketing it all the time for being a white-owned
business in a black neighborhood. Always thought that was kinda funny,
as I remember when blacks started moving into the formerly all-white
neighborbood in the 50's and 60's. Cyclical color changes. I noticed
that there's a place getting ready to open on Almeda, across from KCOH
(remember Skipper Lee?) and a block from Spanish Village. Mocha Life is
the name of it. I talked to the owner.... Jihad Mohammed. Seems like
a nice guy, but may not get much of the Jewish business. Should be
opening in March. Quite an evolving neighborhood.

Jack

Jack

[George Kerby]

On 1/20/06 8:39 AM, in article

Post by Jack Tyler
Cyclical color changes. I noticed
that there's a place getting ready to open on Almeda, across from KCOH
(remember Skipper Lee?)

Who doesn't? "Hey-hey, Cadillac!"
We were "blue-eyed soul brothers" in the late 60's...


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[Al]

"Some I remember back then were Cellar Door on I-10 and Bellaire at
Wesleyan."

Yeah I remember the Cellar Door at Bellaire and Wesleyan, a BBQ place
and quite good, seemed packed all the time, another mysterious eatery
failure.

[a***@gmail.com]

Hi again Jeanne:

I just thought of a couple more restaurants back in the '70's.

How about Brenner's on I-10, the Boston Sea Party on Westheimer.
Molina's on Westheimer. And The Old Munich Inn, I think it was on
Telephone road, just inside the loop a couple of blocks. Pappy's on
I-10. Hofbrau on Shepherd.

Just for the record, Prince's Hamburgers has 2 places I know of,
relatively new though. One on I-10 near Bunker Hill, the other on 59
inbound at Weslelyan.

Best regards,

A.C. in Houston.

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
I'm working on a story set in Houston during the early 70s (well, one
segment is during that time period) and as I have no time sense at all
I can't remember what we ate or where.
Does anyone remember what the fads were in Houston back then? The
food ones especially.
I'd also like to know which restaurants were popular then, both
expensive ones patronized by the politicos and oil barons and the
cheap ones where the students went. I do remember Western Sizzling
(Sizzler?) for steaks and the first salad bar I ever experienced but
don't know when it arrived in Houston. I didn't get there until 76
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
Thanks,
Jeanne

[Bob Andrews]

Post by m***@cox-internet.com
and the time period I'm writing about is 70-74.
Thanks,
Jeanne

I was at UH during that time. When we left campus to eat it was usually to
Pizza Inn on OST, Prince's on the Gulf Freeway at Cullen, Loma Linda on OST
(or was that a Monterrey House?--my memory is failing me), Tanny's on
Calhoun across from the University Center (reeeealy popular on 10 cent beer
nights), Roy Rogers near Gulfgate Mall, Yamin's on Buffalo Speedway or my
favorite..Frenchie's PoBoy on Scott. Frenchie's had the best fried chicken
ever. When we had some real money to spend we went to Valians across from
the Shamrock for Italian, Old San Francisco Steak House on Westheimer or the
San Jacinto Inn.

[Becca]

Post by Bob Andrews
Frenchie's PoBoy on Scott. Frenchie's had the best fried chicken
ever.

Right now I am trying to remember the fried chicken restaurants in the
70's and nothing comes to mind, except KFC and Tinsley's.

When I was a student in Huntsville, the Chicken Shack was one of my
favorites.

Becca

[Kerr.]

Frenchie's PoBoy on Scott. Frenchie's had the best fried chicken ever.

You mean HAS. Frenchy's is still open and still serving terrific fried
chicken. I was there about 2 weeks ago.
Kerr.

[Bob Andrews]

Post by Kerr.

Frenchie's PoBoy on Scott. Frenchie's had the best fried chicken ever.

You mean HAS. Frenchy's is still open and still serving terrific fried
chicken. I was there about 2 weeks ago.
Kerr.

No kidding? Well, I need to get out more. Actually I've been around UH a
couple of times in the last month or so but hadn't thought to poke around
the old 'haunts'.

[Bob Andrews]

Post by Becca

Frenchie's PoBoy on Scott. Frenchie's had the best fried chicken ever.

Right now I am trying to remember the fried chicken restaurants in the
70's and nothing comes to mind, except KFC and Tinsley's.
When I was a student in Huntsville, the Chicken Shack was one of my
favorites.
Becca

KFC was around as was Churches and Hartz (I think). Popeyes was a little
later. But IMHO nobody could touch Frenchie's. Two pieces (breast and wing),
fries and a jalapeno in a white box for pretty cheap. They used what seemed
like a hotter version of Lawreys(sp?) on their food. I remember a couple of
other locations, I-45 North and one on the East Freeway but I never visited
them. The Scott St location was a regular 'run' for us. It could get a
little dicey there from time to time at night (we'd get 'the eye' a few
times from other customers and I had a beer can thrown at my car one night)
but the ladies working there knew us well and we got extra chicken and fries
from them.

-Bob Andrews

[Aje RavenStar]

Post by Bob Andrews

Post by Becca

Frenchie's PoBoy on Scott. Frenchie's had the best fried chicken ever.

Right now I am trying to remember the fried chicken restaurants in the
70's and nothing comes to mind, except KFC and Tinsley's.
When I was a student in Huntsville, the Chicken Shack was one of my
favorites.
Becca

KFC was around as was Churches and Hartz (I think). Popeyes was a little
later. But IMHO nobody could touch Frenchie's. Two pieces (breast and
wing), fries and a jalapeno in a white box for pretty cheap. They used
what seemed like a hotter version of Lawreys(sp?) on their food. I
remember a couple of other locations, I-45 North and one on the East
Freeway but I never visited them. The Scott St location was a regular
'run' for us. It could get a little dicey there from time to time at night
(we'd get 'the eye' a few times from other customers and I had a beer can
thrown at my car one night) but the ladies working there knew us well and
we got extra chicken and fries from them.
-Bob Andrews

Don't forget Ron's Fried Chicken (flavored to the bone).

[Bob Andrews]

Post by Aje RavenStar
Don't forget Ron's Fried Chicken (flavored to the bone).

--
I remember that motto but can't picture a Ron's outlet.

Roy Rogers used to run an AYCE Sunday fried chicken special. At least they
did at the Gulfgate location until the manager finally told us, with no
apology to Rodney Dangerfield whose line he stole... 'Fellas, that's all you
can eat'.


Bob Andrews

[Aje RavenStar]

Post by Bob Andrews

Post by Aje RavenStar
Don't forget Ron's Fried Chicken (flavored to the bone).

--
I remember that motto but can't picture a Ron's outlet.
Roy Rogers used to run an AYCE Sunday fried chicken special. At least they
did at the Gulfgate location until the manager finally told us, with no
apology to Rodney Dangerfield whose line he stole... 'Fellas, that's all
you can eat'.
Bob Andrews

They had a red, yellow and white logo. For awhile, it seemed like musical
chicken places. I remember several locations where it'd start off as a KFC,
then become Ron's, then Church's, and back to KFC, here in Houston.

This got me curious, so went and googled 'em. Came up with this:

http://www.ronsfoods.com/aboutus.html

[Frank Mancuso]

Post by Becca

Frenchie's PoBoy on Scott. Frenchie's had the best fried chicken ever.

Right now I am trying to remember the fried chicken restaurants in the
70's and nothing comes to mind, except KFC and Tinsley's.
When I was a student in Huntsville, the Chicken Shack was one of my
favorites.
Becca

There was a Youngblood's Fried Chicken, but the location escapes me.